>> Teeny Tucker: I'm Teeny tucker and I actually was born in Dayton Ohio, in the late fifties.  I think when I was about 10 years old my mother actually started having kids, and never got to finish college.  So she wanted to go to college, and there were seven of us, I was third oldest.  So I must have been about eight years old when we moved here just so she could go to Ohio State, from Dayton Ohio.  And she ended up at Ohio State where she got her degree, and her master's degree.  So I've been living in Columbus ever since then, that's a pretty long time.  I always liked Columbus, my grandparents actually stayed in Dayton and a lot of my family stayed in Dayton.  But we would go back and forth, so...  But I've traveled a lot of places in my life, so.  I guess you don't feel as bad living here, and this city has really grown a lot so, since the fifties and sixties.  So I actually think I remember reading as early as kindergarten, and reading was one of my fun things I like reading.  And I learned to read phonetically as we talked about before and I had a teacher that was actually a social worker before she became my first grade teacher.  Which was really strange, and I was a baby then, and then she decided she wanted to be a teacher instead of a social worker.  So she became my first grade teacher which was ironic, never planned or anything like that.  So she taught us how to read phonetically, and I think we just didn't learn fun phonetic reading only in the first grade or in kindergarten, we continued up until third grade.  Because a lot of kids were behind other kids.  But we would continue to do that and that's how you learned to read.  I think fanatically is the better way to go for me.  I would agree with people that teach phonetically.  Well you know we didn't have that many books, green eggs and ham, Sam I am, you know and I remember the wizard of oz book came out, and I think at that time I learned as a really young girl that movies in a book that detect the same thing will show different things.  You can read one thing and then see another.  But when I read the book, the wizard of oz, I said "Wow I really get it now." Because you can read in between.  So those were some of my favorite books when we were younger.  You know, as I've gotten older and started high school and everything, we had to read like mark Twain and Shakespeare and that wasn't really my thing but I did it because I had two.  I liked more of the, I liked more reality, you know.  Stuff about people, autobiographies about people's lives and stuff.  Things that I could realate to.  I never really…  I think people that read a lot right a lot too, I guess, but I wasn't that way, I didn't, I probably are started writing like poems and stuff when I got older.  Then when I went to college and I realized I wasn't such a great writer, you know like when you have to write your papers you're like " well crab I thought I was better than this, you know" and I realized what I did not learn, when I got to school at Ohio Dominican.  And I think I started reading more in my thirties, yeah.  That's crazy.

>> Interviewer: And is that because of your songwriting do you think?

>> Teeny Tucker: I think it's because of my songwriting, I started writing songs.  Actually I think I have a gift for, if someone gives me a musical track, and they say "go and write a song for this" I'll have them a song in 15 minutes. But if I have to write it myself and come up with the melody but I can do it, it takes me longer.  So that's when I realized, "Wow, I'm a great, I can write really good songs like this." So I started writing songs.  And you know I like writing songs about special events like the, like when 9 11 happened I wrote a song about that.  When they had the Oklahoma bombing and I wrote about that, I just wrote a song about hate.  You know, I like reading songs about everyday events, current events, things that are happening.  Could I read a book?  No. (Chucking).

>> Interviewer: You know I was going to ask you that, if especially as you've mentioned like autobiographies and stuff.

>> Teeny Tucker: Well yeah, and you know, and I really would like, if I don't do it, my daughter will do it, to write a story about my mom's life.  You know, raising seven interracial children in the fifties and sixties, that's kind of unusual, you know.  Back then, it's more common now.  I think that would be a great book.  Just the kind of show people what she went through.  And how people in that situation are more triumphal.  But a triumph over it now is different, it's more acceptable.  If