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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}[ interviewer ] So can you maybe talk, uh, step back uh a little bit
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and um think about Ladyfest 2004? 
 [ Olivera  ] yeah--
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}[ interviewer ] and so can you talk about sorta that process and
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}what type of, how did you come to all that so.
 [ olivera ] totally
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Um, yeah, I mean that was actually like the big inspiration for the store
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um was collaborating with um
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535} I think it was about 25, something like that, in total
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}local women to put together um Ladyfest 2004
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}which was um sort of an all-inclusive arts festival
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um that focused on women. So it was like
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}visual art and music and performance and
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um workshops and all kinds of great
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}stuff. And it was a I think it was like a 3-day
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}weekend um full just like a packed--
[      interviewer      ] Memorial Day
[ Olivera ] just a packed full, yeah Memorial Day weekend
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}packed full schedule of um all kinds of events.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and it was really successful and it was a fundraiser, and we raised
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um a lot of money for the Girlz Rhythm and Rock Camp 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}of Ohio and for the Central Ohio Abortion Access Fund. Um
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and it was gosh, I wanna say it was at least
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}a year long process, maybe even like 14 months, um planning process
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}to put that together. And it was um really intense
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}it was like 14 months of like weekly meetings, um with everyone in the group, plus
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um your committee meetings on the side and there was
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}so much, and it was so great because nobody had ever done something like that before so we all
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}just kind of like you know contributed our own talent to it
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um and it came together really well and it was that same, like, DIY
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}sort of thing, that inspired the handmade movement and
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}zines and all of that I think. Um just uh like hey!
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}we wanna do this, there's nobody really we can ask permission 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}from, there's nothing like we didn't seek out sponsors or anything like that
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}we just kind of did it, um, because we wanted to see more
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}things like that happen. So yeah, that's
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um that's something that I'm really proud of and I think we should all be really proud of.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}[ interviewer ] so can you maybe talk about some of the um
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}the literacy that went into that? So the reading and the writing
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}'cause 2004, the, like Facebooking
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}didn't exist. Facebook is used to promote stuff like crazy, so like can you talk about
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}that that what was, like what that was like, or how
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}you went about doing that? 
[ Olivera ] yeah, that a good--yeah, it's sometimes it's hard to remember like
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}the days before the internet, like what we did. Um I
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}I definitely have memories of like pasting together flyers
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}just like, like uh like cutting out pictures and pasting together
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}flyers and um and yeah just like going and like tacking
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}them up in local coffee shop and things, um, uh
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}wow yeah. Um I remember it was a big
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}deal when we found sombody who could do a professional-looking program for us
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um because none of had those kind of skill, um, the kind of like
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}computer, graphic design sorts of skills, um
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}to be able to put something like that together. Um so that was a big deal, I think it was like a 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}CCAD student or something, um, so it was a big deal when we , we found somebody that could do
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}that. Um, in terms of like reading
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and writingum, gosh. 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}I-I mean I just remember like trying like
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}finding other Ladyfests. I think, I think 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}there was an internet presence for something. Yes! I remember now, the original
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Ladyfest in Olympia, Washington had archived everything.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Everything from their planning process on some 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}you know like 2000 website, like web
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}from the year 2000 that was just like, all-like a text document of
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}all of their meeting minutes, and all of their, um, yes, and I remember looking at 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}looking to that when we first got started, um, and just to kinda to see what the process was and see 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um what they went through and everything and it was really, like, an exhaustive
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um document of-of everything, and that was really helpful.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Um, yeah, 'cause we yeah, we did, we you know had meeting agendas and meeting minutes
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and um I think a large box of that stuff still lives at Wholly Craft!
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Um, but yeah, yeah. Um yeah in terms of 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}publicizing it was it, yeah, it was just like a lot of flyers, um, a lot
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}of flyers. I think that we, it helped and this was like part of the plan, that we were holding 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}these little mini-fundraisers throughout the year in the year leading up to the actual festival so that
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}by the time this Ladyfest thing came around, um, people knew what it was
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um we didn't have to kind of like do all of that at once, like explaining what it is, and trying to sell the passes and 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um having the schedule. It was like people heard about Ladyfest throughout the year and that it was building to this big thing.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Um, yeah. 
[ Interviewer ] well, do you have anything else that you um 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}would like to share, any stories or, or um things you would like to share about um
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}literacy, reading, writing, meaning-making, composing, whether we're talking about technology
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}not with technology, when you were a child, within your family,
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}[ Olivera ] I do have a, a kind fo fun story to share about uh, like
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}when I learned about like the danger of the written word when I was a kid. Um it was
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}there, I remember being like 5 or 6 years old, um, I guess I must have been like 6 'cause I knew how to read
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um just a very basic amount. And at the bottom of my pajama drawer
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}there was this term paper that was shoved down there, and um it was by my brother
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and I could read the cover page, 'cause it was just, it said, 'by Jack Bratich' and it said, 'America: 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}the Bloody Knife' and like a picture of a bloody knife. 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Um I was like why is this in the bottom of my pajama drawer? Like this has gotta be some like
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}what is it? It's somethign dangerous, it's something hidden, um. And I
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}didn't know what it was, uh, but it was down there forever, and then I eventually kind of learned, evetually
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}it disappeared first from the pajama drawer, um, and I learned what it was. It probably disappeared like after I asked
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}like 'what is it this Bloody Knife in my pajama drawer?' Um and then I
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}heard it was a paper that my brother had written um in 8th grade
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}about like uh, like American imperialism, and like, the things we've done in other
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}countries. Um, and, and he got in sooo
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}much trouble at home for it. He didn't get in trouble at school for it, 'cause it wasn't like he, like he didn't make anything
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}up, he researched it, it was a term paper. Um but it was like, he was in 8th grade and so
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um and I think he did get an A on it, too
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}but my parents were so horrified by this and so
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}so scared because they came from a communist country where you could not write those kinds of term papers
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um and they were convinced that the whole family was going to be deported because of this, um, they
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}were 100% convinced that the school was going to report this uh this term paper
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and label us as like traitors to America, um, and we were going to have to back to Old Country. So they, he
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}got in so much trouble for this. And it was, it was kinda like a thing that wasn't talked about
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}for year in the house. My parents were so mad, um, and then years later, 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}my parents totally did a 180, and like had, like issued a formal apology
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}to my brother. Like they, they were so sorry that 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}they had um that they had punished him for speaking the truth. For like
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}finding things out and wanting to tell people about them. Um, and they were
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}yeah, they were really like, 'we're sorry. We were in the wrong. um, you at 13 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}knew more about this than we did, um, and we're sorry we tried to silence you.' Um
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}it was uh, it was a very nice moment in our family. 
[      interviewer      ] What was your brother's reaction?
 [ Olivera ] Um he
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}he's an eay-going guy. He was like, he had gotten over it by that point, you know.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}So, so but he was very grateful of the, the apology, that they had come around and
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um I think that we're lucky to have such flexible parents in that sense, too. Like um rarely 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}do parents issue formal apologies to their children, for like, 'we're very sorry that we did this when you were growing up. We
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}were wrong." So yeah, it was, I think, I think we're both sort of grateful to have parents like that 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}[ Interviewer ] And so what, uh, does your, does your brother have a 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}I guess, you said that your brother um
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}was telling truth right or whatever. So what does your brother do now? Like 
[ Olivera ] He's actually a professor at Rutgers
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}University. He teaches communications, um, and he wrote his dissertation on conspiracy
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}theory in American culture. 
[      interviewer      ] nice. 
[ Olivera ] So yeah, yeah. It's sorta, he
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}went on that same path. 
[ Interviewer ] So um, anything else that you'd like to share or talk about?
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}[ Olivera ] uh, no, I think that's, that's a pretty, yeah, exhaustive history.
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