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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Also, smart people are usually really good at making things very cognitive
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and distancing themselves that way. I'm great at it. Like it's one of my
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}it's what I used to put on my dating profile-- like what's your, 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}like that's the first thing people notice about you?
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}I was like my ability to cognitive reframe things, um.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}And so, I know right? Like so nerdy?
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}So nerdy, I don't even like, I can't even, like sometimes I
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}look at my past dating profiles because I save them on my computer, and I just like laugh.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}LIke I'm just, I'm just what were you thinking when you put that? Like how did you
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}think that anyone reasonable person would look at that and go well, there's a 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}reasonably healthy person who just wants to find love. No. So anyway
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um, did this program, and 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}got it down to four hours,
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}to me, I just I put together what I thought made sense. So we start off with what is bias.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}I came out of a conversation where one of my colleague, Scott Boden, said, 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}'do students even know what bias is?' And I was just like, 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}oh, maybe they don't! So we used the um
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}OSU does not have an all comers welcome policy like some schools
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}we have delineated categories of identity, so like disability, veteran status, age,
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}national origin, ethnic or racial group, that sort of thing. 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Um, which means things like weight are not
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}technically in our list of protected categories for discrimination.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Um nor is regionalism or
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}socioeconomic status, those are usually the big ones
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}we talk about as being factors that actually inhibit your ability
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}to participate in the university but aren't protected categories. 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}So I don't know. I just like built
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}it in the sense, like, well the first two hours, we have to do action. We have to help people to
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}figure out what is bias and how to respond to it in the moment, and the second two hours drew
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}from my mental health background, in that we often don't incorporate discussions of disability and mental
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}health status in conversations 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}about minor-minority population because there was this 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}past push, if read some of the literature in the late-80s, even to
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}the early 2000s, that diversity should focus on
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}or multiculturalism should be focused on racial and visible characteristics and should exclude things
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}like sexual orientation, disability, these things that can't be seen.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Um which I just think is ridiculous. I think if you're marginalized or othered, it feels the same
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}no matter how you look, walk, talk, any of those.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}So, the second, the second and third
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}modules focus on okay, well how do just sit and listen to someone's story of pain?
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Even if you don't understand it. they've experienced this bias incident, how do you
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}just be. And that really comes from my counseling background, 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and then how do you recognize people in distress? You know, restorative listening is powerful but
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}sometimes it's not enough. How do you feel empowered
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}to recognize what is distress and get someone the services that they need.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}And so that's it. I mean, again, fairly simple
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}in terms of how it's planned out, but the execution is just very
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}like how can you balance all these things. 'Cause you could put everything in this or you could put nothing in it
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}how do you not only construct a cognitive, intellectual journey but also an affective emotional journey
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}that dovetails with it, especially when people are afraid of intense emotions and one of the things
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}that is constantly repeated as a mantra in the program for the trainers is 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}strong emotions are not a bad thing--they're hard to experience, but they are not in
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}terms of moral thing. It's better to experience them than shut them off. Um
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and, then the bias instances, and so
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}well, okay, so then we were given the pilot year and they said, well you should get like
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}600 people through, and I said I think we can get 1200 people through it. We got 1295 people through it in my first
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}year and then the No Hate for Ohio State Taskforce recommendations came out and it was vaulted as one of the primary
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um pieces, we were supposed to get 1000 people through
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and so they said, Bowen can you make this work? And I said, sure why not, you know? Um so it looks like we're
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}schedule to have 3000 people through in fall semester potentially. [    interviewer    ] wow. [ Bowen ] Yeah
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}because I just went through and I said, so there's a presidential mandate, we have this program, we previewed it
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}with all the stakeholders who are in positions of authority so that they would know that it's a good training, and then we would
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}revamped based on the recommendations, so it was even stronger, and so we had community buy-in, um
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and we had this conversation with one of our units who said, well I just don't
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}understand why they're doing it optional or mandatory, and I said well
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}I hate to use the mandatory ever, but, here's something
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}to consider. You're saying this is important. But if you make everyone go through all these other trainings, and you say 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}this is optional, what are you inherently saying about diversity in your division at this
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}university? And they said, wow, I didn't actually think about that.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}You know, 'cause this kind of fear sometimes around talking about diversity
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um Friday, two days ago, three days ago, we just did our first train the trainer. Never done something like that before but
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}it was so cool to get a program, to grow it from just an idea to a standardized format
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}to something that we are now disseminating how you effectively facilitate 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}this program, and having five people say, I mean these were people who were handpicked by their supervisors or 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}opted-in um because they really believe in this work who said, at this point in time I don't feel like
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}I'm developmentally capable to facilitate this training, however, I will still support and still be an Open Doors partner
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and that was pretty powerful, you know. And it's it's great to hear people say when they walk away from the training, I'm sorry, but why didn't this take longer?
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}There was more to discuss. When do you walk away from a diversity training and hear people say that? And so
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}that's why it will stay four hours because better to leave people with excitement and furor around a topic
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and then give them resources so that the can self-motivate, motiv-like elect into other things
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}then burn it out, if that makes sense. So yeah, so it's just been
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}a phenomenal journey, and it, it was something that was really just a side project and really is still not the blulk of what I'm doing, it's just
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}something that I'm managing now, and you know, we're we're of course collecting outcomes data, we have an IRB filed for it, 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}you know, we're presenting at ACPA on it this year probably. So it's just this great thing 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um for me, the really neat piece of it is
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}yeah I put this together, but it's not me. Do you know what I mean? Like and I
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}have two quote that I live by. One is, I think Billie Holliday phrased this, paraphrased from another
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um a writer, but she was giving an interview and someone said--
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}she said, um when I get up to heaven and God asks for my
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}talents back, I want to be able to say, Nope, sorry you can't have them. I used them up and they're gone.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}And that's my belief that when you're given a lot of internal resources, you know, this kind of um 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}ipsative privilege we don't often talk about, you know intelligence, emotional capability, ability to socialize, whatever you wanna
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}call it, um, what good does it do people if you keep it to yourself?
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}And so for me, yeah, I didn't earn any of that. I've done things with it,
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}I've been given lots of opportunities because of it but I didn't earn that, so
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}how can I make it a resource for people who may not have those capabilities? And I believe it's by turning out these 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}products, but working on what I think are social justice issues, um, and the other
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}quote I live by, and this is only slightly related. Well, really it's related. Um, 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}one of my friends, who had just had a really hard go with life, I said how do you maintain such a positive
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}attitude? And he said, well, we have two choices in this life, Bowen. We either choose
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}to be bitter or better, and you have to choose to be better.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}So that's it, you know what I mean? And I think that's why as a graduate student I'm very fortunate, because so many people say Oh, when I get out of
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}graduate school I'll be able to do all this stuff that matters to me, and I think, you know I may not make a whole lot, but I make enough,
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}like we do not live, I mean look at this office, like even the small background that you can see we have access
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}to material resources that aren't direct earnings but we work in a 300 million dollar smart building, or I do,
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}you know what I mean? [    interviewer    ] social capital. [ Bowen ] Soc-yeah exactly, social, and you know vicarious economic
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}capital. I mean, we work, we go to school at an institution that has an economy that's larger than Delaware. 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}You know? So even if not directly I'm not receiving those benefits, I'm getting to implement things that
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and really see them to fruition that I wouldn't have been able to, and that professionally, honestly
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}as much as it makes me cringe to say this, I may never be able to again because as a graduate student
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}you're really in this neat limbo period, where they're giving you more responsibility, and, and
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}they want you take on the world, but you don't make enough and you don't have enough people reporting to you 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}that it's live or die each day. You get to try things, you get to fail at things, and pick yourself back up
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and do it again. And people applaud you for it. As opposed once you're in the professional world, as I've seen
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}you make a mistake and you get ground into the dust. So, so I just I do try to practice
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}gratitude a lot. Because I always say, I elected into this stress. SO much of my life is going right
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}that I chose to add the stress of a graduate degree. 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}[ interviewer ] so is there anything else, uh, anything else you'd like to share, any stories or particular experiences related to literacy
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}that you would like to share. [ Bowen ] I don't think so. I mean I once fell off a treadmill 'cause I was
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}reading "The New York Times" on my iPhone, so literacy can be dangerous.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Well I think, I don't know, I said this to someone. I don't know how people who don't just love
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}to learn aren't just really bored. 'Cause if ever I'm bored, I
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}just pick up the HuffPost or I watch a YouTube video on how to tie new knot or
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}how to make that zombie face, you know what I mean? Like, and I really think, I'm wondering, too, as you shift over time
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and as we look at different modalities for learning, what will it mean to have
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}video communication as a primary modality for learning?
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and we talk about literacy a lot but we often, and one thing I didn't realize is, like mathematics, 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}is really so much more than words on a page. Like see how someone actually writes a problem
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}on the board and how they bring in the different pieces, you know like the coefficient comes after um
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}whatever other factor happens, there's such a visual piece of seeing how that puzzle
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}comes together that goes beyond what I think of as classical literacy, which is words on a page, um
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and how as we have, you know, this ability to, to record video so cheaply, what does that mean 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}for literacy? And how do we get to honor people who you know, I mean the English language is a very strange language
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}the phoneme don't necessarily connect to the written word, and so we have things like dyslexia which doesn't occur in
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}the Italian language,you know. So again, I don't 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}know, other than that, nothing. 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Fell off the treadmill once, three times, three times. [ interviewer ] well
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}so many times that's happened. So do you have a 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um do you think that technology has impacted your literacy?
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}[ Bowen ] Oh absolutely. When I think about, I mean I grew up in the advent of computers, but you know
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}the fact that you can outline something and then instead of having to cut and rewrite and rewrite the entire
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}paper, you can just chop the line out and move it, that to me
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}fundamentally changes your relationship with the written word on the page. 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}Because it is so much more plottable, and the fact that I can go through and when I write an email to someone
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}I can get all of my primary thoughts out in outline format and then come back and fill
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}um so that why sometimes when I send a document to someone, they're like, do you mean to finish this
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}sentence here? I'm was like, I'm sorry I wrote the second through eighth paragraphs before I wrote that
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and forgot to go back to the first paragraph and write it. I mean, absolutely.
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}You know or the fact that if you want to do a task list as opposed to having to write a task list down
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and then execute each one in a linear fashion, I can just open up seven web browser tabs 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}and then use those as retrieval cue in my mind for what I was supposed to do that page
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}I mean, that's, that's it just a very subtle perhaps but just a very different way of approaching data
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}in that it's still important to learn and be abel to make neuroconnection in your
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}mind because you can think of things and make connections so much faster, but when you think in terms of what it means 
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}to shift the brain from both a storage unit and an indexer to primarily indexing unit that just
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}has the topographical pieces but not the expansive knowledge beneath, again
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}it changes the way in which we aggregate information. I think that's one of the reason I've been most successful
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}in graduate school is because I'm really good at taking seeming dis-disprate
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{font:Arial}{size:14}{Plain}{textColor:65535, 65535, 65535}concepts and putting them into a linear piece that other people can then read.
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